we have people on the wiki who actively use the term
Where? If someone could just point me to recent discussions where this term is actively being used by a large number of people...? Because I swear I've said "citation needed" at least nine times now, and so far the only citation anyone has provided is a single link to Agent with Style's website. That does not indicate to me that the term is in widespread use, *currently*.
I mean, what does it hurt to be accommodating and as neutral as possible, while still representing current usage?
And as I've said before, I have no problem with (1) including "it was at one time the mainstream fannish term meaning multifandom, and is sometimes still used to mean this" on the "multimedia" page, and (2) including "an alternate term, 'multimedia,' is used in many cases, especially in the zine community" on the multifandom page.
I haven't seen anyone yet give a good reason why this isn't an acceptable solution.
I mean, what does it hurt to be accommodating and as neutral as possible, while still representing current usage?
It hurts the wiki to misrepresent the actual state of affairs in fandom. Let's be brutally honest, and I'm sorry if this hurts people's feelings, but the term that is used 95% of the time is "multifandom."
It is not only *incorrect*, it is actively confusing to have a page titled "Multifandom or multimedia," as if these terms were both widely in use and generally understood to be interchangeable, like "Femslash" and "f/f," for instance.
I'm all for respecting people's feelings, but at a certain point, you can't just say "it has to say X is true because if you don't say X is true, it hurts my feelings." You need to actually provide some kind of citation that X is actually true.
Unless someone actually can provide some citations for the assertion that "multimedia" is still actively used by large numbers of fans, to the point that it is interchangeable with, and widely understood to mean the same thing as "multifandom," the wiki shouldn't indicate that that is the case, because it's *not true*.
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Date: 2008-11-14 10:56 pm (UTC)we have people on the wiki who actively use the term
Where? If someone could just point me to recent discussions where this term is actively being used by a large number of people...? Because I swear I've said "citation needed" at least nine times now, and so far the only citation anyone has provided is a single link to Agent with Style's website. That does not indicate to me that the term is in widespread use, *currently*.
I mean, what does it hurt to be accommodating and as neutral as possible, while still representing current usage?
And as I've said before, I have no problem with (1) including "it was at one time the mainstream fannish term meaning multifandom, and is sometimes still used to mean this" on the "multimedia" page, and (2) including "an alternate term, 'multimedia,' is used in many cases, especially in the zine community" on the multifandom page.
I haven't seen anyone yet give a good reason why this isn't an acceptable solution.
I mean, what does it hurt to be accommodating and as neutral as possible, while still representing current usage?
It hurts the wiki to misrepresent the actual state of affairs in fandom. Let's be brutally honest, and I'm sorry if this hurts people's feelings, but the term that is used 95% of the time is "multifandom."
It is not only *incorrect*, it is actively confusing to have a page titled "Multifandom or multimedia," as if these terms were both widely in use and generally understood to be interchangeable, like "Femslash" and "f/f," for instance.
I'm all for respecting people's feelings, but at a certain point, you can't just say "it has to say X is true because if you don't say X is true, it hurts my feelings." You need to actually provide some kind of citation that X is actually true.
Unless someone actually can provide some citations for the assertion that "multimedia" is still actively used by large numbers of fans, to the point that it is interchangeable with, and widely understood to mean the same thing as "multifandom," the wiki shouldn't indicate that that is the case, because it's *not true*.