goddamn it, internet, let me inside you!

[sab]

WHAT happened to the "Hungry and the Hunted" baby animals/"Hymn to Her" montage on the Sports Night DVDs? There was, I SWEAR, a baby animals montage, with polar bears and lions and so forth! While Jeremy is on the phone to his dad! And this is NOT showing on my DVD and I am -- gamesiplay can testify -- bereft! Furious!

Here's what happens. We fade out on Jeremy on the phone, but the song keeps playing, and under the credits, rather than the theme song, we get the BABY ANIMALS montage, with some sort of big cats, and bears, and maybe a reindeer, babies and mama animals, and we get the WHOLE song of "Hymn to Her" under the credits!

This does not happen on the DVD. Wiki doesn't remember either.

WHERE DID THE BABY ANIMALS GO?????

PUNK doesn't remember! She says:
[18:02] an onion girl: I swear, I swear on all that is holy, that there was a baby animals montage.
[18:02] runpunkrun: I think you hit your head is what happened.
[18:03] an onion girl: NO!
[18:03] an onion girl: There was -- are you tellling me you don't remember a baby animals montage???
[18:03] runpunkrun: I do not.
[18:04] runpunkrun: It wasn't in my aired version.
[18:04] runpunkrun: I probably still have the tape around here somewhere.

HELEN doesn't remember! She says:
[18:03] hhhelen8: there was, now that you mention it.
[18:03] hhhelen8: I think you're right.
[18:03] hhhelen8: maybe they couldn't get the rights?
[18:03] an onion girl: Dear god, please say you remember it.
[18:03] an onion girl: /flailing
[18:04] an onion girl: Punk doesn't remember it!
[18:05] hhhelen8: I feel I do!

*

Oh, you, someone, anyone??? Please, if you can help me, if you remember this or, even better, have EVIDENCE, or, even better, HAVE the baby animals montage in some sort of digital form, I'll trade you an ACTUAL baby animal of your choice. Choose from a selection of penguins, giraffes and gerbils!

Comments

[gamesiplay.livejournal.com]

I think I remember it; however, I am no longer sure if I actually remember it or if you planted it in my head! Power of suggestion: it's a scary thing.

[pene.livejournal.com]

vast vats of faster cats???

hee...

sorry I can't help, babe. here is a lamb.

xxx

[iamsab.livejournal.com]

I love that lamb. And Punk asked the same question, or, more specifically, "were you on drugs?"

The answer is that ANYTHING is possible, but I am so confident I've seen the baby animals montage more than once, more than twice, I remember rewinding and rewatching the tape a LOT because I am a sucker for "Hymn to Her" and still the only person on LJ with "musical montage sequences" on my interests list.

/petting your baby lamb

I love you, baby lamb!

[girlboymusic.livejournal.com]

Hi.

still the only person on LJ with "musical montage sequences" on my interests list

No you're not! Why hasn't it linked us up?

[iamsab.livejournal.com]

Damn you, LJ! But, projectjulie, take note: how awesome is it that you somehow found my LJ ANYWAY? Here's to the fabulous hivemind of our virtual city!

And plus you know Julie and also, it seems, someone named Sab. So you're okay by me. *g*

[girlboymusic.livejournal.com]

I lied. Apparently, I had "musical montages," but I like your wording better. And yes! I actually saw you on Julie's f-list, and went "!!! A Sports Night fan!"

My Sab turned out to be a tiny bit murderously psychotic, but Sab isn't her real name, so it's nice to meet you. :)

[pene.livejournal.com]

and neither does television without pity. and they say it's sheryl-crow-esque!!! hmmmph.

Then some Sheryl-Crow-esque ballad starts playing as Jeremy ponders. He ponder-wanders over to the phone and calls his dad.

http://www.televisionwithoutpity.com/story.cgi?show=45&story=1196&page=7&sort=&limit=all

[helenish.livejournal.com]

yeah, but (and I could be wrong) didn't Television without Pity do those recaps after the fact, from the DVDs? I'm almost certain they did. I have a DEER in my mind's eye. A little speckled FAWN.

[pene.livejournal.com]

you are all so fucking cute about these baby animals I am beaming and wanting to pet you all!

xxx

[iamsab.livejournal.com]

YES YES speckled fawn! There WAS a speckled fawn, oh, Helen, I'll be your lover from the womb to the tomb! I'll dress as your daughter when the moon becomes round! And so forth!

There WAS a fawn, and a big cat and a big cat's mom, and some sort of badger or muskrat or something, and probably a bear.

And I do think TWOP came after the DVDs, as most things did -- what I need are good old-fashioned ABC tapes, or, at the very least, Comedy Central tapes. If ONLY I hadn't thrown mine away.

[runpunkrun]

Nope, I definitely remember at least the first half of the show being up prior to the DVDs.

[janet-carter.livejournal.com]

I came in with the Comedy Central airings and have definitely never seen this (although now I'm tempted to pull out the tapes, just to double-check, but that's the paper I'm not writing talking).

[iamsab.livejournal.com]

If the paper you're not writing is a forgiving taskmistress, and you end up cueing up said tape, I will write a whole PARAGRAPH of that paper for you. Provided it doesn't matter what the paragraph is ABOUT. *g*

[janet-carter.livejournal.com]

Well, step one is figuring out where I put the notebook with the list of what's on what tape, with time stamps. Hmm...

And I could pretend the paper is about David Hewlett, if that would help.

[iamsab.livejournal.com]

Seriously, don't put yourself out on my account. I am a consummate procrastination-enabler, over here, procrastinating MYSELF while being distracted by the BABY ANIMAL CRISIS.

But on the other hand...

[janet-carter.livejournal.com]

Dude, I take any procrastination excuse and am *thrilled* to have a Sports Night-related one.

Plus, the tape wasn't too hard to find. No montage, no baby animals (this is taped from the second time through on Comedy Central, I think). But I found evidence that they did cut something! The end fades straight to the Imagine thingy, rather than the usual Sports Night logo first (and, yes, I did watch the end of The Apology to check against it. In the name of research. And for the fluffy baby animals.)

So, paragraph of paper? I'm writing on subject access to images, but you're free to improvise on related themes :).

[iamsab.livejournal.com]

http://www.loc.gov/marc/marbi/2005/2005-dp01.html

Let's say, hypothetically, there were a Canadian actor named David Hewlett who was hired to play a loudmouthed civilian genius at the mercy of a bastardized military command structure in space. The portrayal of such a character conceit requires visual and psychological references to any of a set of traditional archetypes, but this is an example of a situation where an ability to index and catalog images by of-ness or about-ness offers a wider range of cross-genre inspiration. For example, a keyword search of the term "space physicist" might only return images of individuals, while a broader, more holistic approach to indexing might return a broader set of images more tangentially related to the of-ness of space physics, ie, set pieces that show labs, nontraditional equipment, nontraditional vistas, and suggestions for additional business, props and set pieces related to the broader and more detailed universe that might surround a physicist in space. Simply put: without an ability to receive a broader set of returns on a search term, we might never know that a space physicist working in a pseudo-military hierarchy requires not only knowledge related to science and technology, but also a physical body type better suited for any of a set of off-world and alien experiences available to, and necessary for, such a space mission. And without that set of returns, we, the viewers, would be denied the glory of watching a young Canadian actor named David Hewlett represent both the scientific genius and the crusade toward physical tone, ability to look good shirtless, and ability to lift heavy things necessary for a doctor of physics in space.

I think I sorta went off the rails there, at the end. And, um, the beginning.

[janet-carter.livejournal.com]

Hee! You did research! I'm so tempted to try to sneak that in. Oh, that's wonderful, and such a rewarding payoff for my time.

[iamsab.livejournal.com]

And look at everything I learned about indexing!

Now, if only we had a search index where one could look for "baby animal musical montage" and generate the entire set of musical montages starring baby animals throughout ALL TIME.

I can't BELIEVE it's not on the Comedy Central airing! My ONLY hope is the ABC airing, or else I am more crazy than I ever thought I'd be, because THAT'S how vividly I remember, not just the montage, but the year of fandom wherein I rewound and watched it a LOT.

[janet-carter.livejournal.com]

Now you've got me wanting to see the montage. Baby animals!

And, you know, I think there are enough librarian-types in fandom that such an index will, sooner or later, exist. Hmm...I wonder if I could get some sort of independent-study credit...

[txvoodoo.livejournal.com]

I don't know about this, but I know that the Northern Exposure dVDs have been eviserated and made soulless by music rights issues. :(

[phoebesmum.livejournal.com]

Also (though this affects older fans only) Wiseguy.

I had tapes at one time, before I got DVDs, and there were no baaaaaaby animals then, but they (the tapes) might have been from reruns. I do not know.

[calligrafiti.livejournal.com]

I seem to remember a Hymn to Her, baby animals montage in an episode of Northern Exposure. I'm afraid I don't remember one from Sports Night. Sorry.

[aprilmay430.livejournal.com]

There was a baby animal montage, but it was on Northern Exposure - "Baby Blues" (episode 5.11, the one about Shelly's baby shower), about half the song, at the end of the episode. (I just checked my tape this morning.)

But I remember also thinking at one time that it was on Sports Night, so it's not just you.

it was! I'm not crazy, I'm just in Cicely!

[iamsab.livejournal.com]

Thank GOD!

Dude, it WAS NX, it WAS Hymn to Her, and it WAS Shelley's shower, when she's...hiding in the apartment and Holling comes to try and talk to her and then he leaves and she...brushes her hair?

(This is, like, 15 year old memory we're working off of, here)

I love you. I LOVE you. Will you marry me and raise a herd of baby animals???

Re: it was! I'm not crazy, I'm just in Cicely!

[aprilmay430.livejournal.com]

Glad I could help! But I don't think my husband would go for that. ;-)

Dude, it WAS NX, it WAS Hymn to Her, and it WAS Shelley's shower, when she's...hiding in the apartment and Holling comes to try and talk to her and then he leaves and she...brushes her hair?

Not quite - you've got it mixed up with the episode in the first season when she thought she was pregnant (turned out to be a hysterical pregnancy), when she left Holling after he stood her up at their wedding, and later he showed up to talk to her, and she ended up throwing her hairbrush at him. In "Baby Blues," she freaked out at the shower when she couldn't take any more stories about difficult deliveries and ended up in the woods where she found Mother Nature leading a support group of famous mothers, and they ended up convincing her that having a baby wasn't all bad.

(I don't have such a great memory either - the only reason I know all these details is because I watched it about 7-8 years ago when it was on A&E, and also because I still have all the tapes I made back then.)

Man, I loved that show. *nostalgic sigh*

Re: it was! I'm not crazy, I'm just in Cicely!

[misswelles.livejournal.com]

Hey, I just saw that ep of Sports Night last night on the British ABC 1 and it wasn't on it, but I do love Hymn to Her though, they play great songs on the episodes! But how weird that that was the episode they played and you wrote about it!

[(Anonymous)]

Not a montage, but a good source of some lovely (copyrighted) pictures Check out the picture with the doberman puppy under the bench, which is entitled "I didn't do it"

http://www.betterphoto.com/gallery/dynoGall2.asp?catID=268&pageID=1&rows=40&style=&contestCatID=&camID=